Wednesday, April 26, 2017

OIT- Interview F. William Engdahl- Round Table, World War & Gods of Money

Where to begin with this one?
First of all... Thanks again to Tim Kelley, from Our Interesting Times, who is an excellent interviewer.  A very informative, listen more then once, kind of information packed historical/ present day chat-

This is related to a concept I haven't been able to quite put my finger on, or organize, regarding the Atlantacists, Five Eyes, the Brexit and NATO's attempt to crush Europe. Maybe you all can leave some thoughts?

There's a post from 2014 where I had mentioned the agenda to subordinate Europe by the US/Atlantacist led NATO

Thursday, May 8, 2014 "Toward a Europe Whole & Free" Via NATO global dominance

 This post contains a ton of info-  Europe Whole and Free, is of course, nothing like it reads. In our Orwellian world of doublespeak. Whole and free  is really Europe subordinated to NATO/US dominance.
There is most definitely information related to this interview in that post


 F. William Engdahl returns to Our Interesting Times to discuss his heretofore unpublished chapter "A New World Order Built on the Ashes of War." We talk about the intrigues of the secretive network known as the Round Table and the role it played in fomenting the world wars of the 20th century. Later we talk about his 2009 book Gods of Money: Wall Street and the Death of the American Century.




An Anglo elitist union which will leave the EU in tatters. By design.

It’s becoming clear that there is a far more ambitious strategy behind Great Britain’s exit from the European Union, the so-called Brexit. Far from a reluctant government led by Prime Minister Theresa May, forced to listen to the Vox Populi of the majority of voters in 2016 who voted to exit the European Union, signs emerge of a far more devious well-planned strategy at the highest levels of British power, including the House of Windsor and the powers of the formidable City of London financial institutions. Britain is ditching the EU as a failed option, and seems to be intent on building a new English-speaking Union together with the United States and with the nations of the Commonwealth–the former colonies of the British Empire prior to 1914 .
Their decision to join the European Monetary Union in 1992 went against that tradition of staying outside the Continental European fray, a tradition of remaining an Atlantic power, utilizing their Anglo-American “special relationship” that had been built during the war years by Churchill with Roosevelt. When the US circles deliberately destroyed the British possibility to join the emerging Euro through the agency of a “lone assassin” hedge fund operator named George Soros in 1992, it was a clear signal that Wall Street and Washington would not permit the enormous financial power of the City of London, fused with that of Germany, France and the Continental economies, to challenge the hegemony of the US dollar and of Wall Street.


Read the rest at the above link... This confirms some sneaking suspicions I have about just what our five eye nations are up to.

And for some very interesting and also related information read all the pages of the article linked below- It's lengthy so print it up and read it entirely including the extensive foot notes! 

I will include the first 5 paragraphs and suggest again the essay warrants a good read.
This is an alternative perspective to commonly known history regarding Britain and Germany- And, in my opinion shines a light on what is occurring present day.  Mr Engdahl talks about some of this history which definitely piqued my interest!

A Reevaluation of Cockburn's Clivedon Set
Claud Cockburn, founder and editor of The Week (a pro-communist British weekly periodical), coined the term the "Cliveden Set" in late 1937, when he accused a group of politicians, bankers, ship builders, newspaper editors, and other wealthy aristocrats of conspiring to influence the policy of the British Government.1 Cockburn, a communist himself, wanted Britain to rearm and issued several warnings in his paper for Britain to wake up to Hitler's intentions while the "set" was busy appeasing Germany. His articles went unnoticed until he labeled a story "The Cliveden Set" on 22 December 1937; the story exploded.2 Unfortunately, due to deficiencies in Cockburn's argument, a majority of historians dismiss most of the charges he made against this group. In spite of this censure, it remains difficult to believe that everything he wrote was false. In fact, Cockburn was very accurate when he reported the "set's" pro-German intentions. Not only were they pro-German but, as Cockburn hypothesized, they attempted to influence the British government towards an amicable relationship with Germany. It was this intent which separated the "set" from other appeasers, and the reason why Cockburn's thesis should not be dismissed.
The members of this "alleged set" actually had their beginnings as a group in South Africa in the early 1900s, where they were part of a handpicked group of about 23 to 30 intelligent and highly regarded young men on Lord Alfred Milner's administrative staff after the Boer War.3 (Their task was to reconstruct South Africa's economy, and reconcile and unite its warring peoples under one government.)4 Lord Milner, High Commissioner of South Africa, fueled these men - Philip Kerr (later Lord Lothian), Geoffrey Dawson, Edward Wood (later Lord Halifax), Lord Bob Brand, Lord Hichens, and Lionel Curtis - with his ideals, training them with the "vision of [creating in South Africa a] self-governing people under the British flag."5 This body of assistants (essentially the heart of Cockburn's "set") became known as "Milner's Kindergarten."
Lord Milner himself was part of the great British Imperialist Cecil Rhodes' Secret Society founded in 1891. The purpose of this society "was to devote itself to the preservation and expansion of the British Empire."6 Lord Milner was Rhodes' chosen successor to lead this society to its ultimate goal of a federal union. Both Rhodes and Milner, "sought to unite the world, above all the English-speaking world, in a federal structure around Britain."7 This would be done according to secret political and economic influence aided by the "control of journalistic, educational, and propaganda agencies."8 When Rhodes died, Milner took over the society and continued towards its goals by recruiting bright young men who he believed could be easily influenced, and had enough power and ambition to be influential in spreading their ideals.
By 1910, "Milner's Kindergarten" achieved the Union of South Africa, and most of them returned to England. Upon returning to England, Lothian, Dawson, Brand, Hichens, and Curtis rejoined Milner, secretly becoming the Milner Group. As a group, they continued to pursue the ideals of Milner and Rhodes by launching their famous Round Table Review of Commonwealth Affairs in November 1910. This quarterly, founded and edited by Lothian, was "designed to keep open lines of communication around the Empire, a function that might later be performed by official representatives if federation became a reality."9 As imperialists, they were alarmed for the future of the Empire, and used the Round Table Review as a propaganda tool.
Curtis and Brand played larger roles in the group as it expanded in size and outlook. Curtis was seen as the motivating force in the group for much of the 1910s,10 while Brand, Lothian's immediate chief in South Africa, introduced the wealthy Waldorf Astor (his friend from New College who would later become a Lord) into the group in 1910. Astor, as well as Abe Bailey, became the chief financial supporters of the Milner Group.11
Dawson and Lothian also played important roles at this time. By 1912, Dawson had become editor of The Times.12 He later served as secretary of the Rhodes Trust (1921-22), and editor of the Round Table Review (1941-44).13 His influence on these publications and foundations was tremendous and was in line throughout with the Milner Group aims. Besides being the founder and editor of the Round Table Review, Lothian was secretary of the Milner Group (1910-16 ), served as secretary to Lloyd George (1916-22), and finally the Milner Group's leader (1925-40). He was also Secretary of the Rhodes Trust (1925-39), and became a Lord (1930).14
Lord Astor's financial contributions brought him into the group. His father, William Waldorf Astor, owned the Pall Mall Gazette, and in 1911, bought The Observer at Waldorf's insistence. James Louis Garvin, editor of The Observer, was retained as editor for both of these publications and was brought into the group by Waldorf as another means of influencing the public to their aims. Waldorf's wife, Nancy Astor (and later known as Lady Astor, the first woman in Parliament), had a big influence on Brand, Curtis, and Lothian. She attracted these men by being outspoken, yet willing to learn. By the 1930s, the Astors were not just financial contributors, but played a larger role by hosting meetings at Cliveden or one of their other homes.

Tuesday, April 25, 2017

Vegetarian Diet? No Panacea for Environment or Health- Meat Lies Told To Justify Meat Tax

Sorry folks, a vegetarian diet is not a panacea for you or the planet. No matter how many lies the managerial classes tell on behalf of the elites. Take that Steve Paiken- Saw the promotional for this show- Didn’t watch it. Paiken is a member of the managerial class.

Link
People go vegetarian for lots of reasons, says the University of Alberta’s Timothy Caulfield: Animal welfare. Personal branding. The “health halo.”

It just won’t prolong their life, suggests a large new study.

Researchers who tracked nearly a quarter million adults aged 45 and older in New South Wales found no significant differences in all-cause mortality, meaning the likelihood of dying, of any death, between those who followed a complete, semi- (meat once a week or less) or pesco- (fish permitted) vegetarian diet, and regular meat eaters.

Caulfield, a Canada Research Chair in health law and policy and expert in celebrity health trends, said the study (in which he played no role) fits with an emerging body of evidence that vegetarian diets don’t reduce the risk of premature death.
Out of 16,836 deaths in total (6.9 per cent of total), there were 80 deaths in vegetarians (5.3 per cent) and 16,756 deaths (6.9 per cent) in others (which includes pesco-vegetarians and semi-vegetarians.)

After adjusting for other factors, such as age, smoking and alcohol consumption, and a history of ever being diagnosed with high blood pressure or conditions like Type 2 diabetes, heart disease and stroke the researchers found no evidence that any of the variations of vegetarian diets had a protective effect on early death.
The article discusses the air of superiority ‘vegans’ have. Because they aren’t killing animals. (I’ve heard this on many occasions) Truth be told being a vegetarian doesn't guarantee a halo.

Plants take in Carbon Dioxide and give off oxygen

Vegetarian and healthy diets 'could be more harmful to the environment', according to new report

According to new research from Carnegie Mellon University, following the USDA recommendations to consume more fruits, vegetables, dairy and seafood is more harmful to the environment because those foods have relatively high resource uses and greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions per calorie. Published in Environment Systems and Decisions, the study measured the changes in energy use, blue water footprint and GHG emissions associated with U.S. food consumption patterns.
Bacon and Lettuce
“Eating lettuce is over three times worse in greenhouse gas emissions than eating bacon,” said Paul Fischbeck, professor of social and decisions sciences and engineering and public policy. “Lots of common vegetables require more resources per calorie (that's energy) than you would think. Eggplant, celery and cucumbers look particularly bad when compared to pork or chicken.”
However, eating the recommended “healthier” foods — a mix of fruits, vegetables, dairy and seafood — increased the environmental impact in all three categories: Energy use went up by 38 percent, water use by 10 percent and GHG emissions by 6 percent. 
“There’s a complex relationship between diet and the environment,” Tom said. “What is good for us health-wise isn’t always what’s best for the environment. That’s important for public officials to know and for them to be cognizant of these tradeoffs as they develop or continue to develop dietary guidelines in the future.”
Indeed there is a complex relationship between diet and environment-

Vegetarians tend to consume soy- Abundantly. Contributing to an increase in herbicide use.
“However, the study did find evidence that both maize and soybean farmers increased herbicide use during the last five years of the study, indicating that weed resistance is a growing problem for both groups”
Contributing to an increase in herbicides, which kills everything-Increased herbicide use for gmo crops isn't an inducement for halos

Affecting human fertility negatively- Link
Seeking healthful foods, Americans are eating more soy than ever. But recent research with animals shows that consuming large amounts could have harmful effects on female fertility and reproductive development.

Soy is ubiquitous in the American diet. Over a quarter of all infant formula sold is made with it, and the U.S. Food and Drug Administration promotes it in foods to reduce the risk of heart disease. School lunch programs across the country are even adding soy to hamburger patties.

Many of soy’s health benefits have been linked to isoflavones—plant compounds that mimic estrogen. But animal studies suggest that eating large amounts of those estrogenic compounds might reduce fertility in women, trigger premature puberty and disrupt development of fetuses and children.


 Eating plants also kills the plant. In other words vegetarians are consuming death- plant death- and insect death. Pollinator death. Etc. That's one of the memes regarding meat consumption- "You're eating death"There is no consumption for survival, by any living creature, that does not depend completely on other life being lost. Period.
 
-Birds of prey kill all kinds of animals. From small animals to other birds.
-Cats eat mice.
-Possums eat grubs.
-Birds eat worms and insects.
-Coyotes kill deer
-Fox hunt ducks
-Aardvarks eat ants.
-Fish eat other fish
Etc., etc.,


Cows eat greens  (not gmo corn in factory farms)- we consume cows


Reality is just so.... real. Sigh.
Then there is the “big lie” regarding meat  (Real actual facts vs politicized spin science )
Science stands in the way of meat tax agenda

"High on their list of policy goals is a tax on meat, akin to tobacco and alcohol “sin taxes.”

The theory is that meat, especially beef, is disproportionately responsible for greenhouse gas emissions and if we were able to change how people eat, primarily in wealthier countries like the U.S., we could take a significant bite out of climate change.


A blueprint to achieve the meat tax is laid out in a November report by Chatham House, a London-based think tank. The group concedes that the issue is “complex.”

Yet it advises governments to push for the taxes through publicly funded public relations campaigns which make the matter appear clear-cut, because “public respond best to simple messages.”
This is an unusual recommendation for a group known for promoting open debate.
Chatham House 'suggests' that governments fund PR campaigns employing simple messages to convince us all that meat should be taxed. Think tank pushing the elite agendas. People like Steve Paiken (managerial class) deliver. And of course they can brainwash children beginning in school... Teachers being the managerial classes also
For radical animal rights groups and puritanical health crusaders, promoting vegetarian diets is, well, a red-meat issue. But the environmental case against meat is a stretch, requiring fuzzy math and politicized science.

Those backing the taxes cite the United Nation’s Global Livestock Environmental Assessment Model, or GLEAM, which concluded in 2013 that livestock, including beef, milk production, and poultry, accounts for 15 percent of global greenhouse gas emissions.

However, the model was not developed as fodder for anti-meat campaigns, but rather as a tool to guide the livestock industry toward more sustainable production.

Using GLEAM as scientific evidence to argue against meat consumption is as far-fetched as it would be to fight organic agriculture because it relies on manure, a source of methane and nitrous oxide, both greenhouse gases. No wonder advocates want to keep their messaging simple.
The idea that reducing meat consumption would make both humans and the earth healthier is challenged by consideration of the environmental impact of alternatives.
For instance, almonds, a darling of health food advocates, are highly water-intensive. The U.N. hasn’t yet calculated the water-footprint of your almond milk-based smoothie.
The lesson: if you want to advocate for meat taxes, follow the advice of the experts and keep it simple (for the simple minded) Otherwise, the science will get in the way of your agenda.
Yup a meat tax- Like a sin tax!
The impetus for this post which has been on the back burner for quite a while appeared just the other day

LIE: Could a tax on meat help us save the planet?- NO! NO, no, no, no.Nadda
More Lies

Can we please stop believing lies presented to us as 'simple messages' appealing to our emotions?

Italian Prosecutor: NGO's Collaborate With Human Traffickers

This is obvious. Human traffickers, organ traffickers and NGO's move in the same circles.
War is big business. And business is good for the vile subhumans that profit from this heinous crime against humanity What better way to commit evil then in plain sight. Evil lurks, under cover of goodness.

Here's an Italian prosecutor stating that fact:

The Italian prosecutor in Sicily yesterday accused migrant rescue organisations of colluding with human traffickers in Libya.
“We have evidence that there are direct contacts between certain NGOs and people traffickers in Libya,” Carmelo Zuccaro told Italian newspaper La Stampa.
 We do not yet know if and how we could use this evidence in court, but we are quite certain about what we say; telephone calls from Libya to certain NGOs, lamps that illuminate the route to these organisations’ boats, boats that suddenly turn off their transponders, are ascertained facts.

Personally speaking I have ZERO doubt that the human traffickers and No Good Organizations work hand in glove. Hand in Glove.

Migrants are seen at the Salerno harbour in Italy on October 5, 2016
Zuccaro leads a group of prosecutors investigating the trafficking and exploitation of migrants.
The Public Prosecutor’s Office in Catania, Sicily, has opened an investigation to determine who funds the organisations and for what purpose.

The European Border and Coast Guard Agency said in a report published in December that there is “possible collaboration between human traffickers and NGOs migrants rescue boats that roam the Mediterranean”.
Some of the organisations involved in migrant rescues include Doctors Without Borders, Medecins Sans Frontieres, SOS Mediterranee and Save the Children.

Save the Children receives funding from Bill and Melinda Gates

Big Pharma figures large in their corporate sponsorship  

36 percent of their revenue comes from the US government

Doctors without Borders = Rockefeller Medicine  


Flashback: Tim Kelly (OIT) Interviews George Webb: DynCorp Harvest: Killing is Good Business
 George Webb returns to Our Interesting Times to discuss his open-source investigation DynCorp Harvest: Killing is Good Business. We discuss evidence of a global human trafficking and organ harvesting network hiding under the cover of various humanitarian, military and national security operations
More then a year ago

Flashback: April 12/2016- Update: Bloomberg Reports Italy's Refugee Arrivals Double in Just a Month

 As stated: The movement of these ethnically cleansed persons has been a NATO op from inception to, the not as of yet, completion

 Flashback: March 30/2016 -NATO Op: Destroy Culture, People & History via Chaos- Moved to Italy

As stated:  Hopefully readers here read the news regarding the closure of the established people moving aka ethnic cleanser operators/operations in Greece?  I'm certain readers here would not believe that news indicated the end of the ethnic cleansing of the Middle East and Africa resulting in the weakening destruction of Europe? 

Of course Doctor's without Borders is mentioned in both posts. 

Monday, April 24, 2017

About That, Alleged, Global Rise in Antisemetism?

Never let a good crisis go to waste.  Whining is so advantageous to those pushing agendas and benefiting from an externally induced guilt. Not just a reference to those advancing the antisemetic mind virus.

*Think about the fact that the actions of just one individual could generate,  an abundant, though completely skewed idea/concept, via the media,  that a certain type of activity was  dangerously increasing. Extrapolate that across all commonly promoted media 'ideas'. Then think about what might be the reality of the concept of any commonly promoted 'idea' vs the presentation of that same commonly promoted idea?

 Interesting articles regarding the Israeli jew arrested for all these "threats" causing global consternation and convenient, contrived, but advantageous, spin for that eternal victim meme.
Oh and the alleged brain tumour? I don't know if it's true. So, I'm disregarding it. The writer of the author doubts the validity of the claim also. It reads like just another ploy for pity.
 It's very obvious this young man acted very maliciously, intentionally, as you will read.

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 An Israeli teenager arrested for allegedly making bomb threats against Jewish centres in the US is facing charges relating to an online crime spree including thousands of hoax calls worldwide, according to an indictment filed to a Tel Aviv court.
 The 18-year-old, identified by US prosecutors as Michael Kadar, is facing accusations of making threats for financial gain, money laundering and the attempted blackmail of the US senator Ernesto Lopez.
 Details of the charges being faced by the teenager, a joint US-Israeli citizen who lives in the coastal city of Ashkelon, came as it emerged that Israel would probably oppose his extradition to the US, where many of the crimes were allegedly committed.
The Israeli indictment includes allegations that he made threats to about 2,000 institutions worldwide using sophisticated technology to mask his voice and IP address.
"he made threats to about 2,000 institutions worldwide using sophisticated technology to mask his voice and IP address."

Is there some reason this is not being characterized as terrorism? 
 
Kadar, who has not been named in Israeli proceedings, was arrested last month in Ashkelon, after a joint investigation by Israeli and US authorities, including the FBI.
The threats against targets including Israeli diplomatic offices, schools, shopping centres, law enforcement agencies, hospitals and airlines contributed to fears of rising antisemitism in the US.
"contributed to fears of rising antisemitism in the US."
 
Let that be a lesson to all those who assumed reality, based on media hype, spin and no facts.
The indictment said that after Lopez, a Republican senator from Delaware, criticised the wave of threats, Kadar called him to demand payment in bitcoin or face incrimination on the internet. When Lopez did not respond, he ordered drugs online to send to the senator’s house.
Kadar is separately accused of threatening to kidnap and kill the children of a former CIA and Pentagon official.
Again, I ask: Is there some reason this is not being characterized as terrorism?
In addition to the bomb threats to Jewish centres, the indictment said Kadar made a bomb threat against an El-Al flight to Israel that sparked fighter jets to be scrambled, and threatened a Canadian airport, which required passengers to disembark in emergency slides and left six people injured.
He is also accused of threatening a Virgin flight that as a result dumped eight tons of fuel before landing, and of threatening a plane being used by the NBA’s Boston Celtics.
Reports in the Israeli media have alleged Kadar took payments for some of the bomb threats from students who wanted exams postponed. He reportedly had almost $500,000 in his bitcoin account at the time of his arrest.
" $500,000 in his bitcoin account at the time of his arrest"
The indictment said he posted set fees for calls to police stations, schools or airports.
The Israeli indictment comes three days after the US Department of Justice brought 32 charges against Kadar, including conveying false information to police, cyberstalking, and making threatening calls to about 200 institutions.
An indictment filed in a Florida court on Friday accused the teenager of making threatening calls – with his voice disguised to sound like a woman – describing in graphic detail how children would be killed in US Jewish centres.
It linked Kadar to at least 245 threatening telephone calls between 4 January and 7 March 2017, many targeting Jewish community centres in the United States.
The US attorney general, Jeff Sessions, described the calls as responsible for “threats of violence [that] instilled terror in Jewish and other communities across this country”.
Israeli media have reported that the country’s justice ministry, which has been involved in talks with US justice officials, would probably not agree to his extradition because of the seriousness of the charges he is already facing in Israel.
His lawyer, Shira Nir, has said she intends to argue that the teenager – who it is claimed has autism and a brain tumour – should not be regarded as legally competent.
 Judging by the actions undertaken by this man, he is not only competent, he is conniving, astute, intelligent and evil. In other words he is no victim!

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Despite efforts to mask the source of the calls, police investigators in New Zealand and Australia were able to identify the IP address of the computer used as being inside Israel. According to some reports, the equipment used included a large antenna and unusually sophisticated computer hardware. The caller also used technology to alter the sound of their voice.

And we're to believe he's incompetent? No way! He knew exactly what he was doing, how to do it and what tools were needed to carry out his crime spree.  He knew how to use his tools. He had amassed 500,000 dollars- He is not incompetent! 
I'm lost on how this is not being considered terrorism.  This individual threatened to kill many people- what the hell?  Wondering exactly how long he was engaged in this behaviour?

Saturday, April 22, 2017

The 5 Eyes (6 eyes?) Meet in New Zealand- Presently

Interesting comment included asking if the 5 eyes, should really be knows as  the 6 eyes?
Included after the main article   

Readers here have surely noticed I use the "5 eyes media" label to describe what is almost entirely all of the main stream and alternative media
I caught exactly, ZERO news stories originating from here in Canada on this meeting. Yet, Canada is assuredly fully represented at the meeting in New Zealand.

The real reason 5 Eyes are meeting in Queenstown

"The surprise by the corporate mainstream media that the 5 Eye Nazgul are meeting in Queenstown is Orwellian double think.
The truth is that the 5 Eyes spooks meet in NZ quite regularly and the surprise by the corporate media is more due to the lack of institutional knowledge now inside these news organisations.
This was March 2011…
Key meets high-ranking US intelligence chief
Prime Minister John Key has had a meeting with a man he describes as the most senior American intelligence official to visit New Zealand.
…this was September 2012…
US Defense Secretary’s visit ‘shows great progress’ – Coleman
New Zealand is hosting the United States Secretary of Defense today in a symbolic visit that could signal a move towards restoring defence ties between the two countries.
…and this was November 2012…
Mystery spook’s identity confirmed
The identity of a United States spy who mysteriously landed in Wellington last year can be revealed as National Security Agency director General Keith Alexander.
…this ignorant surprise at 5 Eye spooks visiting NZ hides the horrible reason as to why the 5 Eye Nazgul visit so regularly here, and that is because we are so apathetic that we don’t bother protesting these visits.
If these spooks were trying to meet in Canada, Australia, Britain or the US, it would provoke massive civil rights protests, but because they are held in the Shire, the sleepy hobbits of muddle Nu Zilind barely even register what the hell is going on.
It is time we pulled out of the 5 Eyes and became an independent nation again, whatever we gain from being a member is nothing compared to the control we are losing. The GCSB and SIS have both had increases in budget by 250% and 174% under National and Key reorganised the following intelligence apparatus to answer only to a small clique of security goons that Prime Minister Bill English now controls; the Organised Crime Intelligence Unit, Financial Intelligence Unit, Strategic Intelligence Unit, National Bureau of Criminal Intelligence, Identity Intelligence Unit, Threat Assessment Unit, Police Terrorism Investigation and Intelligence Group and the Special Investigation Group.
That’s a lot of security apparatus doing what?
The Government can barely keep our privacy safe as it is with their new demands of unconstricted access held by multiple agencies…
‘Extremely disappointing’: Minister still concerned after privacy near-miss
MSD privacy breach report raises more questions than answers: Anne Tolley
Our digital individualism has trapped us all culturally by the mass surveillance of the Deep State and its power over our Democracy is almost immeasurable.

Otaga Daily Times
 It was understood about 15 agencies that carry out intelligence for Five Eyes - the spying partnership of the United States, Australia, Canada, the United Kingdom and New Zealand - would be attending the conference, which was believed to run for about a week and include golf, it was reported.

The Otago Daily Times understands police officers from Dunedin, Christchurch and further afield are in Arrowtown to provide security during the event.
A group of police officers who ``looked like a rugby team'' reportedly arrived at Millbrook, near Arrowtown, late yesterday afternoon in unmarked police cars and a dog squad vehicle.
One road, beside the main reception area, was blocked off by road cones.
Black vans could later be seen in the distance at the golf resort. The main entrance to Millbrook was open and no security was present.
 Relevant related comment
 Lois Griffiths says:
The ‘5 eyes’ are really ‘6 eyes’..as exposed by Jeff Halper, author of War Against the People , p104
“The IDF’s Urim facility in the northern Negev is part of the network of Echelon satellite interception ground stations initially set up in the early 1960s by the US, Britain, Canada, Australia and New Zealand (“Five Eyes”)…”

Friday, April 21, 2017

ISIS Capital is now Deir Ez-Zor- Israel Strikes SAA in Queneitra

I guess the PKK Kurds and their US backers have no need to take Raqqa, then? Right?
I think the need is gone. But you can bet the annex/appropriation of Syrian territory will continue unabated.

April 01/2017:US Access to 5, yes 5, Air Installations In Stolen Northern Syria

Kobani and Tabqa plus three equals 5 accessible bases- Equals permanent occupation by the US of annexed, by the Kurds, northern Syria.
Assad states in an interview with Sputnik (hubby read this to me this morning)

He said US attacks on Daesh in Mosul mean "they are against ISIS [Daesh], but at the same time, they are supporting ISIS and they allow them to cross the border from Iraq into Syria."

"It means they helped ISIS to come to Deir Ez-Zor and to undermine the Syrian Army who are defending Deir ez-Zor. They wanted Deir ez-Zor to fall into the hands of ISIS," Assad said.

Of course, just a few hours ago Fox News reports:
In the wake of increased airstrikes and pressure applied from three directions by U.S.-backed Syrian forces, the Islamic State has essentially moved its so-called capital in Syria, U.S. defense officials told Fox News.

ISIS is now centered in Deir ez-Zur, roughly 90 miles southeast of Raqqa, the officials said.

U.S. military drones have watched hundreds of ISIS “bureaucrats,” or administrators, leaving Raqqa in the past two months for the city of al-Mayadin located further down the Euphrates River

Leaving Raqqa? How are they getting past the fierce fightin’ Kurds and their American special ops pals- Never mind!  Assad said ISIS came to Deir ez Zor from Iraq The question is still how did they leave Iraq and enter Syria? Obviously the US allowed them to pass, most probably aided them in their passage because as they 'watched' them pass they probably also ensured their safe passage!!


Israeli War Plane Strike Syrian Army in Quneitra. Golan & SANA

Quneitra, SANA – A military source announced on Friday evening that the Israeli enemy’s warplanes fired two missiles at 18:45 from within occupied territory at a military position in the surroundings of Khan Arnabeh in Quneitra countryside, causing material damage.

The source said that this aggression came after an attempt by terrorists to infiltrate military positions in Quneitra countryside was foiled and the terrorists suffered heavy losses, which proves that Israel provides direct support to terrorist organizations.

The source affirmed that such desperate attempts will not dissuade the Army and Armed Forces from continuing to crush the terrorist groups that act as Israel’s proxy in the area.
Related: Report Sees ISIS Benefiting From Assad Downfall


From earlier:

Hollywood's Military Spook Intelligence Apparatus & It's Insidious Influence

Hollywood's Military Spook Intelligence Apparatus & It's Insidious Influence

Insidious: waiting to entrap: harmful but enticing
  - developing so gradually as to be well established before becoming apparent

Background for two upcoming posts. Though I expect most who visit here are aware of Hollywood's influence in everythingAre your beliefs and ideas really your own? I comfortable stating, mine are.  How about you?

The video below is very introductory but it gets the idea across




 Hollywood. Where the unreal is made real. An industry that exists to make money while shaping your real world beliefs. All aided by intelligence agencies of course. Telling you what to think,  what to believe, made possible when one fails to exercise critical thinking faculties.

Let's start out with an article from the Atlantic

 Operation Tinseltown: How the CIA manipulates Hollywood
The CIA has a long history of “spooking the news,” dating back to its earliest days when the legendary spymaster Allen Dulles and his top staff drank and dined regularly with the press elite of New York and Washington, and the agency boasted hundreds of U.S. and foreign journalists as paid and unpaid assets.
The intelligence empire’s efforts to manufacture the truth and mold public opinion are more vast and varied than ever before. One of its foremost assets? Hollywood.
The agency has established a very active spin machine in the heart of the entertainment capital, which works strenuously to make sure the cloak-and-dagger world is presented in heroic terms.
 Ever since its inception in 1947, the CIA has been covertly working with Hollywood.
But it wasn’t until the mid-1990s that the agency formally hired an entertainment industry liaison and began openly courting favorable treatment in films and television.
During the Clinton presidency, the CIA took its Hollywood strategy to a new level—trying to take more control of its own mythmaking. In 1996, the CIA hired one of its veteran clandestine officers, Chase Brandon, to work directly with Hollywood studios and production companies to upgrade its image.
 There are many books on the subject as well:

The CIA in Hollywood: How the Agency Shapes Film and Television

Operation Hollywood: How the Pentagon Shapes and Censors the Movies

One I've recently read and very much enjoyed 

Esoteric Hollywood:: Sex, Cults and Symbols in Film

Which addresses the connections between the intelligence agencies and their celluloid assets

Pearse Redmond has done an entire series on the subject

The CIA and Hollywood

 The scale of influence , globally, the CIA & Pentagon have via Hollywood and other media, including social media, is vast. It's a very effective tool because most consumers merely take in without question that which is presented via these mediums.

Think about that as you view any given  form of media. Theatrical- home video or television, social media, what ever?  What's the message.

"The medium is the message"
Marshall McLuhan

Like this definition 

"McLuhan also tells us that a "message" is, "the change of scale or pace or pattern" that a new invention or innovation, i.e. a medium introduces into human affairs. Thus the message of a newscast is not the news stories themselves, but a change in the public attitude towards a subject of the news or the creation of a climate of fear as a result of the news. A McLuhan message always tells us to look beyond the obvious and seek the non-obvious changes or effects that are enabled, enhanced, accelerated or extended by the new thing"

  
From yesterday- Because SAA is the most effective fighting force against ISIS

Report Sees ISIS Benefiting From Assad Downfall

Thursday, April 20, 2017

Report Sees ISIS Benefiting From Assad Downfall

And of course US/Israel would want nothing more then to benefit their ISIS proxies.. In order to also benefit their ( US/Israel/ISIS) mutual partner in crime, the PKK.

Newsweek
With many in the U.S. foreign policy community backing both the ouster of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and the defeat of the Islamic State group (ISIS), a new report could raise some cause for concern. The report says Assad's military has been the most engaged faction against ISIS over the past year of Syria's conflict, making it an extremely risky target for a U.S. foreign policy that is intended to stop the jihadists' advances.
"The report says Assad's military has been the most engaged faction against ISIS over the past year of Syria's conflict" Well that's a statement of the obvious!
The report published Wednesday by the London-based IHS Jane Terrorism and Insurgency Centre, one of the world's leading security analysis agencies, says 43 percent of ISIS's battles between April 1, 2016 and March 31, 2017 were fought against the Syrian military and its allies, which include Russia, Iran and pro-government militias. Meanwhile, the U.S.-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), a majority-Kurd coalition of Arabs and ethnic minorities, accounted for 17 percent of the action against ISIS.
I'm going to requote two very crucial facts from the above paragraph!

 "The U.S.-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), a majority-Kurd coalition of Arabs and ethnic minorities, accounted for (ONLY)  17 percent of the action against ISIS"

That's because ISIS conveniently melts away as has been stated here repeatedly.

"43 percent of ISIS's battles between April 1, 2016 and March 31, 2017 were fought against the Syrian military and its allies, which include Russia, Iran and pro-government militias"

So the US backed Kurds account for only 17 percent of the action waged against ISIS while SAA and allies have fought 43% of ISIS battles in the same period of time.


Making the SAA and it's allies the best, most effective fighters on the ground against ISIS-  No matter how often the big lie has been repeated by the 5 eyes main stream & alternative media

Patrick Henningsen- Guardian profile
Patrick Henningsen is an author and founder of the 21st Century Wire news website, an Associate Editor of
alternative news site Infowars.com and regular geopolitical analyst for Russia Today

 @ 21st century wire "only the Kurdish forces have a proven track record of fighting – and winning – against ISIS" 

Quote from a PH oped- Of course, a lie. Interesting connections Mr H has also- Very pro Israel (Guardian and Alex Jones) which may explain the pro pkk/kurds in tandem with the denigration of SAA, in tandem with the demonization of Turkey that is a consistent theme at his site. Which should explain why I don't regularly link to or recommend that site. (making exceptions for specific interviews- Gilad Atzmon as an example)


Keeping in mind you've never read the "Kurds most effective fighters against ISIS"  lie stated here!  No sirreeeee.... Because it was always the BIG LIE .  I've stated very plainly, on several occasions, if the fight was REALLY against ISIS OBVIOUSLY the US could have allied with SAA. Supported them in their real fight against ISIS! But the US didn't do that because their goal was not to truly fight ISIS.

The actual goal  under the guise of "fighting ISIS" served multiple purposes

  1. Allow for destabilizing the region
  2. Destroying existing nations.
  3.  Ethnically cleanse the populace & create a massive weaponized refugee surge targeting Europe, extending to the US and Canada
  4.  Ethnic cleansing allowed for the clearing of existing multiple state territories for annexation by the PKK  Kurds  in order to create Kurdistan aka Israel 2.0
  5. This destabilization extends into North Africa as well 
Kurds..............ISIS
The fact of Syria being the main opponent of ISIS has always been obvious.
The Kurds as an effective fighting force has never been obvious or true.



Wednesday, April 19, 2017

Turkey’s Opposition Parties Declared Unstamped Ballots Valid During Referendum

Kaz, I fibbed! This was too good to pass up. Must stay away from reading news
Sorry :(

Turkey's main opposition parties are engaging in behaviour typically characterized as  You can't have your cake and eat it too"

DS
An official report signed by ballot box officials in Istanbul's Ümraniye district on April 16, 2017 shows that CHP and Peoples' Democratic Party (HDP) members, Hasan Çelik and Olcay Emir respectively, accepted that the ballots were not stamped but they were indeed authentic.
 CHP and HDP members, named above, at the polling station signed an official statement accepting that unstamped ballots were both acceptable and authentic
The report indicates that 48 ballots in ballot-box numbered 3017 were unstamped.
"We have unanimously agreed on the validity of the [unstamped] ballots as there is no uncertainty regarding the voters' will," the report read, indicating that although the ballots were not stamped, they were indeed valid and represented the decision of the voters.
Let's talk about this.
  1. If CHP and HDP party members were so very concerned about unstamped ballots why did they allow the ballots to be cast? 
  2. Did someone else require the accountability of these two party members as a condition for this allowance to be made? Were observers from other parties present?
  3. What were the circumstances surrounding the request for these unstamped ballots to beused and cast?
  4. -Were CHP and HDP party members aware of who the voters were and what their vote may be?
I was a scrutineer at a provincial election some years ago, as stated previously, in my more naive days. One of my siblings and I had volunteered to assist. It seems sensible to me that an observer or scrutineer indicated to CHP/HDP party members they had to sign off on allowing these unstamped ballots to be case.

48 ballots in one ballot box? Could the CHP/HDP party have allowed this at others polls?
Perhaps this is how it is they've come up with the as many as 2.5 million ballots claim?

 Apparently this is not the first time unstamped ballots have appeared in elections including previous appeals by CHP to have unstamped ballots accepted

" The YSK on Wednesday rejected appeals by main opposition Republican People's Party (CHP), the Peoples' Democratic Party (HDP) and the Patriotic Party (Vatan Partisi) to cancel the April 16 referendum over the debate on unstamped ballots, and a look at previous election decisions shows that this was not the first time. The board had previously accepted unstamped ballots as valid, upon necessary inquiry and investigation confirming the authenticity of ballots. Opposition parties, including the CHP had even appealed to the board in previous elections to count unstamped ballots as valid"
 In the 2015 general elections, the CHP submitted an appeal to the provincial election board when the district election board in Istanbul's Maltepe district decided to consider unstamped ballots as invalid. The provincial election board ruled in favor of the CHP and declared the unstamped ballots as valid."

Making all this carrying on about these so called "unstamped ballots" a red herring as well as the BIG LIE- It's a BIG red herring LIE!  Basically a fallacy of distraction


Here's what we know based on all the news reports the last few days

- Yvet garnered the majority support
- Unstamped ballots were used in referendum and their use was okayed by opposition parties, allowing for 48 ballots, in one ballot box alone.
-Unstamped ballots have been accepted in other elections- In fact the CHP has appealed for them to be considered as valid on previous occasions-

The article continues on
"YSK's precedents also show that the board has declared unstamped ballots valid after inquiries confirmed the authenticity of ballots. For instance, in the 1984 local elections, the County Election Council in the town of Akçaalan in Kütahya province declared all votes without stamps were invalid, but the Social Democracy Party submitted a petition to deem the ballots valid. Upon investigating the request, the YSK said that there was no doubt about the authenticity of the unstamped ballots and that it was the Ballot Box Committee's mistake, ruling that the unstamped ballots are indeed valid.
In the 1994 local elections, ballot box committees in Ankara failed to stamp ballots and the County Election Council (CEC) declared that all votes cast with unstamped ballots were invalid, upon objection by the True Path Party. Two applicants then appealed the results to the YSK, which then announced that the aforementioned ballots were valid, in a decision saying that the purpose of Law No. 298 and Circular No. 138 is to prevent election fraud, but that the lack of stamps was the ballot box officials' fault and that an investigation has shown that the aforementioned ballots were indeed authentic. Also in 1994, a similar decision was made for the Salkım town in Nizip, Gaziantep.
In the 2004 local elections, a total of 145 ballots unstamped by the ballot box committee were also declared invalid in southern Mersin province and the opposition Nationalist Movement Party (MHP) submitted a petition to annul election results. However, the YSK ruled that the aforementioned ballots were valid and ordered a recount for the purpose of declaring the winner.

From earlier today

About those Trump Claims that USS Carl Vinson was "steaming" to North Korea..

 And last night:

"Barkey-ing" the Turkish Referendum

About those Trump Claims that USS Carl Vinson was "steaming" to North Korea..

Steaming? The USS Carl Vinson must have been a 'steamin' angry ship, ready to fight? Besides being nuclear powered (steam generation) I guess we were supposed to believe steamin' angry because that's certainly how the media reports prior to the Easter week end were spinning. As if confrontation was imminent!

Here's the post from April 14/17: US prepares preemptive strike against North Korea before another nuclear test. Link embedded within.

My opening thoughts -This is alarming if even remotely true. Though it feels like fear mongering. Thoughts?

Hattip to Davoh for letting me know, indeed, the news from last week was simply fear mongering. Davoh left me two links which will be posted below Davoh's edited comments

So, what's true?......
You posted this on Friday 14th. Two articles in Australian media today suggest otherwise......
 All that drama and fear over the week end regarding imminent danger was bullshit! Distractionary bullshit to up the fear over the holiday.

Trump is fake news!  Always has been.


USS Carl Vinson wasn't heading to North Korea as Trump administration originally suggested
A "very powerful" US Navy armada which the Trump administration said was heading towards the Korean Peninsula to deter the North from carrying out a nuclear test was actually carrying out exercises with the Royal Australian Navy thousands of kilometres away in the Indian Ocean, the ABC has confirmed

As tensions soared on the Korean Peninsula earlier this month, the US Government said the USS Carl Vinson aircraft carrier was being dispatched to the Sea of Japan to send a "powerful signal" to North Korea.

But instead of heading straight towards the Korean peninsula the US strike group instead conducted planned exercises with HMAS Ballarat in the Indian Ocean.

Senior Australian defence sources say the US carrier group is now gradually making its way closer to North Korea.
Photo: The USS Carl Vinson sails through the Sunda Strait, more than 5,000km away from North Korea (Supplied: United States Navy)

According to images released by the US Navy on Saturday the carrier group passed north through the Sunda Strait, the passage between the Indonesian islands of Sumatra and Java, which is about 5,600 kilometres from Korea.

 White House all at sea over claims flotilla was heading to North Korea
 A US aircraft carrier-led flotilla that the White House said last week was “steaming” towards North Korea to increase pressure on Pyongyang was actually thousands of miles away heading in the opposite direction.
On 11 April, the defence secretary, Jim Mattis, said the Vinson was “on her way up” to the peninsula. White House spokesman Sean Spicer said “when you a see a carrier group steaming into an area like that [it] is clearly a huge deterrence”.
The following day,(April 12) Donald Trump said: “We are sending an armada. Very powerful.”
 I put up my post on April 14/17
The US ratcheted up its rhetoric ahead of North Korea’s military parade and failed missile launch over the weekend.
Yes it did. Though it's obvious the defence secretary would have known exactly where the carrier was! He surely had easy access to that information!

 In Washington, officials are facing questions and criticism over the location and original course of the Vinson flotilla, after it was photographed 3,500 miles away from North Korea, sailing south in the Sunda Strait at a time officials said it was sailing north.
 Psychological operation via the media...
Can I be any more digusted?

 Less then 24 hours ago

"Barkey-ing" the Turkish Referendum

Tuesday, April 18, 2017

"Barkey-ing" the Turkish Referendum

I've been mulling over the whole ruckus regarding the Turkish referendum. And there is a rukus happening in the so called "alternative" AND 5 eyes media. Including but not limited to a call for violent overthrow?  Overthrow call made by MoA reported  by Willy Loman
Seriously? How very atlantacist.

That oped from Henri Barkey has been on my mind, particularly that last paragraph.
Henri Barkey: " Turks have a tendency to buck the system when they feel that the rules of the game are unfair or that they are being bullied by their leaders. No one should assume that the vote will turn out the way Erdogan has planned"
It dawned on me today that Henri Barkey provided the basic narrative for the entire 5 eyes alt and main stream media presentation regarding the referendum- There it was staring me right in the face! In two short and sweet sentences, no less!

We are supposed to believe that the Turks actually did "buck the system" but that evil Erdogan 'stole' the referendum from those claimed system bucking/ Barkey-ing Turks.
Stereotypical evil sultan

Sadly and pathetically most people don't "buck the system"- The alternative media doesn't even buck the system- They march in lock step with the 5 eyes media.

So, is it realistic to think the Turks would actually "buck the system" as Barkey claims? Or is Barkey simply giving us the mind virus? 

I'm going with mind virus.

 Reuters
“Up to 2.5 million votes could have been  manipulated in Sunday's Turkish referendum which ended in a tight 'Yes' vote for greater presidential powers, Alev Korun, an Austrian member of the Council of Europe observer mission, told ORF radio on Tuesday”
Lie Big, Repeat often

 2.5 million votes could have been manipulated? That's a big claim.  That should be more accurately described as the Big LIE. Because it's big allegation of fraud involving multi millions of ballots and it's totally unsubstantiated. 
That's not stopping the 5 eyes alt and main stream media from running with it!  
*Do these ballots actually exist? 
*How do those that claim they exist, know they do? 
*If they do exist at all how were they manipulated? 
*How do those that make this claim know that they actually existed and were manipulated in a nefarious fashion? 
  I don't know. Do you?

I talked at length about the discrepancy in polling numbers that were covered in a post prior to the referendum taking place: Turkey's Referendum: "To Close To Call" ???
 What we are looking at here, and I mean really looking at is a roughly 60 yes/40 split nearly consistently-
It's been reported that the expected Yes support for the changes was going to be 55 percent
In a television interview on Friday Erdogan had predicted a far clearer victory saying polls showed a 55-60 percent share of the vote.
This was the point I was making about internal polling- Without a doubt internal polling was conducted all along. 

In conclusion I'm going to reiterate some statements made previously by me, here.
Considering the internal polling prior to the referendum...
Which did show the yes side ahead

 And my final thought goes back to what I said about the 'yes' side polling well in advance of undertaking this referendum to be certain of a comfortable win- That most assuredly did not occur
I get the impression Erdogan wouldn't have taken such a risk- He is shrewd. He wouldn't have misjudged- I should add that NO political leader or party anywhere would take that type of risk in a referendum- perception being everything
Perception being everything- it's more sensible to me that the no side was manipulated just enough to create the perception of division and of the changes being unsupported- The media spin bears this out

The narrowness of Recep Tayyip Erdogan's victory and opposition complaints about election fraud are highly unlikely to lead to a vote recount, but risk undermining the international legitimacy of his executive presidency.
And that was the desired outcome- job well done

The no side complained vociferously about conditions prior to the referendum and yet they had an amazing, unexpected, never showing in the polling result- So were their complaints bogus? Or did these claimed manipulated ballots favour the no vote? 

I don't know for certain. But, I certainly wonder.

Btw: the NO side wants an annulment-  A very good way to hide any intimate, fraudulent involvement  with 2.5 million manipulated ballots.....

I'm just sayin'...
Turkey's main secularist opposition CHP will present its appeal for the annulment of Sunday's referendum

Monday, April 17, 2017

Delegitimizing Turkey’s Referendum- Would You Expect Anything Less?

I would not have. Nor am I surprised by today's 5 eyes news reports.
Henri Barkey: " Turks have a tendency to buck the system when they feel that the rules of the game are unfair or that they are being bullied by their leaders. No one should assume that the vote will turn out the way Erdogan has planned"
Henri Barkey is telling us the masses will buck the system- I disagree with that statement- A disappointing reality I've long come to terms with is the majority will go along- They don't think. They merely accept- So the initial part of his statement can be dismissed. It's simply paying lip service- It's an empty platitude.

The more interesting part of his statement is "No one should assume that the vote will turn out the way Erdogan has planned"

I was making the point yesterday that prior to undertaking this referendum there would have been polling and lots of it- In my more naive days I worked on election campaigns- I get the idea of internal polling. Knowing as I do how this game works, it was interesting to me that Henri Barkey said "no one should assume that the vote will turn out---- as planned"
Henri Barkey was correct- the referendum didn't have the results that were likely documented via polls for months in advance. That however doesn't mean any bucking of the system occurred.

Yesterday I watched Turkey’s referendum unfold as it happened. As initial results came in the Yes side was way ahead. And I do mean way ahead. Along that 60/40 polling I had previously mentioned - Then something changed. The no side began to really pick up, in a rather unexpected, to me, way. Let me mention, there was never a time that the no side was in the lead, from my monitoring the two sites mentioned yesterday. Checking repeatedly over about 4 hours time.Yenisafak had an interactive map that was updating regularly. jamesinturkey was live blogging and every time a news post was made there was a ding to notify you of the latest news.

I'm pleased to see the Kremlin spokesperson is suggesting respecting Turkey's referendum result
"We believe that everyone should respect the will of the Turkish people," Peskov told reporters, according to Russian news agency TASS.
He said referendum was internal matter of Turkey.
Of course the 5 eyes media, alt and msm, is hell bent on delegitimizing the referendum- There's even an "activist" video! Of course. There's always an activist video.

The first hint of impending 5 eyes media trouble came via this speculative report
  6.57pm Block results service? by Mike
On CNN Turk, journalist Murat Yetkin says there is speculation that the Supreme Election Commission (YSK) has blocked its results service to some political parties.
Some time later there were claims that ballots were counted which weren’t “official”
Belfast Telegraph
Claim: “The High Electoral Board in Turkey made a late decision on the night of the referendum to count ballots that had not been stamped by officials”
 Response to that accusation “head of that Board, Sadi Guven, defended the process, saying all the ballot papers that were counted were not fake or cast fraudulently”
 Sadi Guven is saying all ballot papers counted were not fake or cast fraudulently-

Considering the response should we accept that the claim is valid or take it as just perception management?
Claim:“Bulent Tezcan, deputy chairman of Turkey's main opposition Republican People's Party, claimed the decision was made after it appeared the "no" votes were ahead of the "yes" votes, and that initial counting of the ballots happened in secret”
An unsupported but absolutely expected opposition comment. However there is no evidence to support this claim-
1-What ballots were counted in secret? He doesn't say. 
2-Where did this take place? He doesn't say. 
A recount would be necessary to even begin to validate such claims-
He has offered no proof to support his statement unless he is relying on the "activist" video posted to social media...  By the way, Isn't that convenient?  

These types of proofs should always be taken with a grain of salt-  We have activist videos galore regarding ‘peaceful revolutions’ ‘chemical weapons use’ and so called "rescues" via white helmets. To be blunt, "they don't mean shit"

These "activist videos" are created for the usage of 5 eyes media in order to promote certain perceptions for the advancement of specific agendas. Via the Daily Mail
I've written abundantly regarding the Turkish referendum- if you are remotely unfamiliar with previous posts find them below:


  1. Turkey's Referendum As Results Come In

  2. Turkey's Referendum: "To Close To Call" ???

  3. Turkey's Referendum: Is The Sky Really Falling?

  4. Giant "Evet" Referendum Rally In Turkey

  5. West Unhinged Over Turkish Referendum