Monday, July 28, 2014

MH-17: Uraine releases unconfirmed, possibly ill gotten flight data- Updated!

Possibly, incorrect because as you will read the investigators are not confirming the claims made by Kiev.

Ill-gotten defined as -acquired by illegal, dishonest or unfair means.

No confirmation which makes me question the credibility of the information presented.  Is this just a psychological operation?

Lots of news stories with the sentence "Kiev says". Exactly as was written when MH-17 crashed.
This still reeks of creating/controlling the narrative.


Dutch authorities have criticised Ukraine for releasing information 'too early' and say they do not know how Ukraine obtained the data

The Independent leads a reader to believe the issue investigators have is with early release of information, but, that is not the case. Kiev's source is under scrutiny? And the so called information is unsubstantiated.

Flight MH17 was brought down by shrapnel that caused “massive explosive decompression,” analysis of the black box recorders has found.
The results, given today by Ukrainian security official Andriy Lysenko, have, however, left Dutch officials stunned as they did not expect the "premature" announcement.
His source however, is under scrutiny after the Dutch Safety Board (DSB) confirmed they did not give the information to Ukraine.
DSB spokeswoman Sara Vernooij told The Independent: "I can’t make a comment on what source Mr. Lysenko has.
"We don’t want to confirm or say anything about the information on the black boxes right now; this in the best interest of the investigation itself.
"We want to analyse [and] combine information of several sources before we bring out anything, so we can give a coherent view on the whole investigation.
"Bringing out fragmented pieces of information is not on behalf of the investigation."

With thanks to Paul, because I did want to touch on this aspect of the Ukrainians impeding access to the MH-17 crash site- Not the antifascist fighters. The Ukrainian junta.
ECAC document on Code of Conduct on Cooperation in the Field of Civil Aviation Accident/Incident Investigation, with a few additions by the ECAC, fall to Annex 13 of the Convention on International Civil Aviation. This ECAC code was signed onto by Ukraine in Aug. 2013.

A few things to note in Annex 13.

5.6 The investigator-in-charge shall have unhampered access to the wreckage and all relevant material, including flight recorders and ATS records, and shall have unrestricted control over it to ensure that a detailed examination can be made without delay by authorized personnel participating in the investigation.

5.7 Effective use shall be made of flight recorders in the investigation of an accident or an incident. The State conducting the investigation shall arrange for the read-out of the flight recorders without delay.
Access the crash site was restricted. The investigators were held in Kiev by the Ukrainian gov. due to safety reasons caused by their own military. When investigators reached the site, they were chased away with live fire by Ukraine's military. Also at the train station inspecting the bodies.
ATS records have been seized by Ukraine's military and have not been seen since. The onboard flight recorders are not being read-out to the public, why? The law states 'without delay'. It does not say wait till we can compiles averything, it says now.
Has it been established even who is in charge and what state is to lead the investigation. In annex 13, these are also requirements that should have been publicly stated by now.

This whole thing is in voilation of the law, a complete clusterfck, and will turn into a complete cover-up for mass murder.
That's correct readers the parties (US/Kiev junta) with the most to hide have been all along impeding the MH-17 investigation!

Just today--Fighting Again Forces International Team in Ukraine to Retreat
Ukrainian government troops are trying to retake control of the region around the crash site
Rather then allow the investigators in the Ukraine government decides this is the time to 'retake control' of the region? Really?
  Sergey V. Lavrov, said on Monday that the United Nations should guarantee security in the area, and he called on Ukraine to respect a United Nations Security Council resolution of July 21 that called on all parties to refrain from any action that would complicate the investigation.
Yes, Ukraine should respect the resolution and yet the junta in Kiev is not. Why?

This article from the other day, makes the fascist Kiev agenda quite clear. Quite explicit and this is not a Russian media reporting this. This is the NYT's

Headline- Troops move on crash site, Foiling Deal
-Just hours after the Malaysian government reached an agreement with Ukrainian separatists on Sunday over access to the crash site -The Ukrainian military launched an operation to recapture the debris fields, again stalling international efforts to secure the site.
The reasoning from Kiev for this action is absurd. The rebels had made an agreement with Malaysia, they secured the site, they got the bodies onto trains. They saved the black boxes without Kiev.
So, any excuse making out of Kiev is pure and utter nonsense.

However, below is a sensible statement as to why Kiev is blocking access and destroying the crash site.
Alexander Borodai, confirmed that government troops were advancing.“The attempts to clear militia from the crash site irrefutably show Kiev is trying to destroy evidence,” he told reporters in Donetsk
I believe that is exactly what Kiev is up to. Destroying evidence!

Previous post-

Cathy Young/Slate- Let's count the adhominems against Stephen Cohen

Cathy Young/Slate- Let's count the adhominems against Stephen Cohen

Never heard of this presstitute previously. Who can keep track of them all? A dime a dozen like any other cheaply made product. Oh, my! Did I use an adhominem to describe this alleged journalist?
Why yes I did! "Presstitute". Obviously a spin off on prostitute- someone who does what ever is asked- for payment.

Except with Cathy Young, not a journalist, the label - Presstitute- fits. She did whatever asked, for money. And she put her name to it!  I read her entire diatribe. It can't be taken seriously. It's a stream of smears, attacks, derisions, adhominem, hysterics etc
It's not factually based. It's not honest. And if you really are into self abuse, at least on par with what I put myself through daily reading the newsiness to sift through the truthiness... To finally extract something that seems logical and makes some actual sense. Feel free to read her "work"
Putin's Pal

Stephen Cohen was once considered a top Russia historian. Now he publishes odd defenses of Vladimir Putin
Cathy Young is going to tell you he is no longer a top Russian historian.
She tells us " he is a lifelong leftist hack"
"His antipathy to Yeltsin led him to sympathize with the views of those Russians who saw their country during the 1990s as “semi-occupied by foreigners" As if that is an untruth? Russians saw their country as semi-occupied because it is their country to see that way and is, as a matter of fact, true.

The piece she referenced as a 'odd defence" of Putin has almost nothing to do with Putin. I know, because I linked that article here sometime ago.
 In this post from July 01/14- The article is titled -

The Silence of American Hawks About Kiev’s Atrocities 

Read the article. Read it again, if you already read it. There is no defence of Mr Putin. And it's a dam excellent article

Cathy Young, lies abut the Cohen article immediately. And then goes on to write what is at its core a smear piece. She cannot factually rebut the information presented by Mr Cohen in his previous article. She doesn't even really try, rather, she writes a lengthy article attacking Mr Cohen. Denigrating his previous work. His political leanings.
She engages in ad hominem. She builds strawman after strawman and tears them down.
She uses red herrings. There are others but just naming a few tactics will assist in understanding exactly what Cathy Young has done and what she is attempting to accomplish in using disinfo tactics

Ad Hominem (Personal Attack)

Arguments of this kind focus not on the evidence for a view but on the character of the person advancing it; they seek to discredit positions by discrediting those who hold them. It is always important to attack arguments, rather than arguers, and this is where arguments that commit the ad hominem fallacy fall down.
Red Herring
It is a fallacy of distraction, and is committed when a listener/reader attempts to divert an arguer from his argument by introducing another topic. This can be one of the most frustrating, and effective, fallacies to observe.

Straw Man Fallacy

 A straw man argument is one that misrepresents a position in order to make it appear weaker than it actually is, refutes this misrepresentation of the position, and then concludes that the real position has been refuted. This, of course, is a fallacy

There is always information linked in the sidebar to help us discern. 

"Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders.
That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked,
and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the
country to danger. It works the same in any country."

Dragging the people to war is what Cathy Young is doing with her 'work'  Propaganda is a fact of life in the West.

 Finally, I know many of you are familiar with disinfo techniques and propaganda. But this Slate article is a perfect reminder that disinfo is constant. Incessant. And we have to put our critical thinking caps on to get through the stinking piles of shit that are passed off to us as journalism

Friday, July 25, 2014

NATO False Flag- Norway from mercs in Syria? Think- Arctic Resources & Circling Russia!

So, whaddya think?

The new head of NATO, Jens Stoltenberg, from Norway  is set to take the reins of 'power' at NATO.
 Norway’s Jens Stoltenberg appointed as new NATO chief
 NATO’s next leader was announced Friday: former Norwegian Premier Jens Stoltenberg will lead the military alliance starting in October.
** FILE ** In this June 25, 2013, file photo, Norway's Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg speaks during a news conference at the Presidential palace in Vilnius, Lithuania. NATO announced on Friday, March 28, 2014, that former Norwegian Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg will become chief of the NATO alliance when current NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen steps down in the autumn of 2014. (AP Photo/Mindaugas Kulbis, File)
Jens Stoltenberg

In just over a month a Norwegian will be in charge of NATO (superficially speaking, of course) 

 As coincidence would have it....or not?  Norway and the US are claiming that there is an 'imminent and 'concrete threat' from  the very NATO backed 'extremists' who are destabilizing Syria?

Seriously?! Credible' Terror Threat in Norway, US Officials Say

Buildings of The Barcode Project are reflected on the water at sunset in Oslo, Nov. 18, 2012

The Barcode Project? Interesting name. Controlled. Trackable. Very creepy.


The very mercs participating in the multi year destabilization campaign against Syria, on behalf of NATO, are now supposedly going to launch an attack on Norway?

If anything, anything at all happens in Norway, you will KNOW with certainty this is a false flag created by NATO nations to set Syria/Iraq up for massive airstrikes

Janes is wagging the imminent terror threat finger!

FYI- There are more foreigners then ever in Syria- 

It's always been the UN of NATO mercs there anyway...

Israeli media is reporting that the mercs have already left for Norway and that Norway knows they are on the way...
We have received information that a group of fighters have left Syria with the aim of carrying out terror attack in the West and Norway was specifically mentioned among their targets,
I would think if they know the mercs have 'left Syria' and are heading to Norway.... then this could be prevented if someone wants to prevent such an incident from taking place?

However? If some interested parties (NATO) wanted to create a justification for air attacks on Syria and likely Iraq, then a false flag in Norway is ideal. The new leader of NATO can then showcase his "huntdown" skills while presenting himself as heroic. A man in charge! Spouting meaningless nonsense at the traumatized population of his very own home country.

Yah, this could work out beautifully as far as psychological operations go.

Of course the "anti semite" card is getting  played

Always a yawn fest. Just reinforcement of all your previous programming.

What is the situation with Norway and Arctic resources?

Could this play into further encirclement of Russia?

I'll answer my own questions with this article, ok?

Wary of Russia, Norway urges NATO vigilance in Arctic

This explains the choice of a Norwegian and the possibility of a false flag attack as justification for big NATO movement in this part of the world.
NATO needs to become more watchful about defending its members' security, including in the Arctic, because of the 'completely new' situation created by Russia's behavior towards Ukraine, Norway's defense minister said in an interview.
 But Norway's Ine Eriksen Soereide told Reuters that Russia's actions raised broader questions about NATO's collective defense - significant comments from a country that borders Russia and is as keen as Moscow to tap Arctic minerals, oil and gas.
At a time when most NATO members are failing to meet the alliance's target of spending 2 percent of economic output on defense, Norway maintains it is investing 1.6 percent, while NATO figures put Oslo's ratio slightly lower, at 1.4.
Soereide said Norway would not cut its defense budget in coming years - especially since it has committed to buy 52 F-35 fighter jets from Lockheed Martin, of which it has already ordered 16.

 Norway- Strategic location. Prime Real Estate
UPDATE- Norway on High Alert Amid Warnings of Attack Next Week

 Next week? Like, Monday or Tuesday? So there is plenty of tell-a-vision/social media time to spin the incident? Including week end rehashes?
 Just wondering?

Update #2Norway partially closes Bergen airspace over terror alert
 "Partially closed airspace" What ever that actually means?
 Police have requested Avinor (Norway's state-owned airport operator) to ban flights over central Bergen," 
 Police said the airspace ban applied only to smaller private and recreational flights over the centre of the city in western Norway.
Norway is not an EU member but is part of the Schengen area, which includes 26 European countries that have abolished passport and other types of border controls for people travelling within the group of nations.

Update #3- The date for the alleged terror attack is tomorrow! July 28/14
From this article

"Officials suspected an attack could occur on July 28 "

07/28/14 = A total of seven, sevens.

If you aren't into the numerological aspect of this date. Think of this from the marketing perspective 
The attack/trauma could be reinforced through the repetition of the 7/7's. 

Clearly Christine Lagarde had 7 on her mind when she made a speech about 7's. 
H/T Freethinker
I watched it last week and thought what the hell is she on about. Her speech seemed bizarre
Earlier this month we had the MH17 and 777
So if not occult then certainly very marketable

Gordon Duff on Red Ice Radio. What in the hell?

I just spent two hours listening to this interview.  Two hours of my life I can't get back. Aargh!
Brought to us all by Henrik @ Red Ice Radio

Gordon Duff is a Marine combat veteran of the Vietnam War. He is a disabled veteran and has worked on veterans and POW issues for decades. He manages the world's largest private intelligence organization and regularly consults with governments challenged by security issues. His business experience and interests are in energy and defense technology. We’ll begin discussing flight MH17 that went down in the Ukraine.

To each their own. I have never been a fan of his work, have never heard the man speak previously  and remain unimpressed. Actually somewhat disturbed? 
Give a listen and leave your impressions.

Thursday, July 24, 2014

Ukraine's Government Crumbles- Yatsenyuik resigns- US hurls new accusations

*Updated with new accusations and additional information- scroll down, please
Interesting timing for the rats to jump ship?

Arseniy P. Yatsenyuk, a "pro-Western technocrat" who has guided the Ukrainian government through the tumultuous months since the ouster of President Viktor F. Yanukovyvch, resigned abruptly on Thursday, after the governing coalition of Parliament collapsed.
“I declare my resignation in connection with the collapse of the coalition and blocking of government initiatives,” Mr. Yatsenyuk said from the rostrum of Parliament, according to Ukrainian news services.

Not a 'pro' western technocrat. A Western Technocrat . Recall ? Arseniy Yatsenyuk Foundation

 Did these sanctions get passed before the collapse?
Kiev to introduce sanctions against Russian officials, companies — Yatsenyuk

Is this an orchestrated move to present the Ukrainian government as ‘besieged’
The Ukrainian Cabinet, which includes Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk, resigned on Thursday, he said. Yatsenyuk, who made the announcement to parliament, cited the "collapse" of the coalition running the besieged government
*Read below and you will get the idea that this was a planned, expected move

The government crumbles when American military advisers are headed to Ukraine?

Info here-Breaking News- Kiev claims Sukhoi's downed by Russia!

Or were the fascist thugs just unable to cooperate?

Ukraine's Prime Minister Quits After Allies Withdraw From Coalition
Ukraine's prime minister announced today that he is resigning after two parties said they were withdrawing from the ruling coalition.

"I am announcing my resignation in connect with the collapse of the coalition," Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk said, adding Parliament could no longer do its work.

The Associated Press adds:
    "The nationalist Svoboda party and the Udar party led by former boxer Vitali Klitschko pulled out of the group of legislators 
 Parliament speaker Oleksandr Turchynov said it was up to Udar and Svoboda to propose a candidate for temporary prime minister to lead the government until early parliamentary elections can be held."
Udar and Svoboda to propose a temporary prime minister to lead the government until elections?
Guaranteeing yet another western backed technocrat/ fascist thug to be in place.
Maybe it will be Klitschko, himself ? Recall that Victoria F the EU Nuland thought he needed to gain experience, which is why she wanted Yats, but, who knows maybe he has now gained some 'experience'?


Perhaps it's simply Klitschko's 'turn' to play leader?

Updated begins- U.S.: Russia firing artillery at Ukraine military
The Obama administration is accusing Russia of firing artillery to hit Ukrainian military sites and planning to send pro-Russian separatists more lethal weaponry.
The State Department says the U.S. has evidence that Russia is shelling Ukraine from sites inside Russia. Spokeswoman Marie Harf also says the U.S. has new evidence Russia intends to deliver "heavier and more powerful multiple rocket launchers" to separatists battling Ukrainian forces in the east of the country.
Harf declined to provide details or elaborate on the evidence because she said she could not get into intelligence "source and methods."
Has evidence. But, could not elaborate.
 "I think this is a fully expected and planned development," said Balazs Jarabik, visiting scholar at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. "The president and the government coalition looked for ways to clear the legal way for an early election, as they are under a lot of pressure from Maidan and the public."
 When he took office, Yatsenyuk's administration was expected to be a brief one because it was taking over with the government almost broke and facing the likelihood of adopting unpopular measures to satisfy conditions for rescue loans from the International Monetary Fund. It succeeded in landing the IMF bailout and last week IMF officials said the government was meeting almost all its financial targets.
The Yats resignation- Not unexpected, at all. Yats was just empowered long enough to enslave the Ukrainians to the IMF's austerity. Where is Poroshenko in all this?

Wednesday, July 23, 2014

Breaking News- Kiev claims Sukhoi's downed by Russia!


Hot on the heels of the US admission of zero evidence

The US backs off it's false flag! "No direct link to Russia in downing of MH17

 Kiev this morning (EST) claimed two Sukhois were shot down

Two Ukraine Sukhois downed? Ukrainian Mop up or Seperatist take down? 

Early stories concerning the Sukhois are linked in that post

 Including this strange admission?

"Ukraine’s defense ministry reported Wednesday that two Ukrainian fighter jets had been shot down in eastern Ukraine. The White House has not confirmed the attacks."
And my comment?  Does Ukraine need White house confirmation to make their claims real?

Now, yet another twist in this psyop!
Chicago Tribune 

Ukraine's Security Council said on Wednesday preliminary information indicated that missiles which brought down two government fighter jets over eastern Ukraine were fired from Russia.
"Two of our jets were hit at an altitude of 5,200 meters. According to preliminary information, the missiles were launched from the territory of the Russian Federation," the council said in a statement
A far lower altitude then MH-17 which was NOT shot down by separatists. No even accidentally
Lie, lie and lie again.
A spokesman for Ukraine's military operations said the planes were downed near Savur Mogila, a burial mound in the Shaktersky region where a memorial marks ambushes by the Soviet army on occupying Nazis during World War II.
"They were downed not by terrorists," said Andriy Lysenko, spokesman for the National Security and Defense Council, using the government's term for the separatists.
There was no immediate response from Russian officials.
 As reported in the earlier post- Is it true? Is it more fabrications?

 Igor Strelkov, who is now in charge of the rebel ranks in the eastern city of Donetsk, said the separatists had brought down one plane and that the pilot had ejected. He gave no further details.

Air India flight was 90 seconds behind MH-17?
MUMBAI: The ministry of civil aviation's claim that there was no Air India flight near the ill-fated Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777.
Minutes before the crash caused by a missile strike, the AI pilots had also heard the controller give the Malaysian aircraft MH17 what is called "a direct routing". This permits an aircraft to fly straight, instead of tracking the regular route which is generally a zig-zag track that goes from one ground-based navigation aid or way point to another.
 Soon after the tragedy, the media picked up data from flightradar24, a live flight tracker website which showed the AI aircraft in the vicinity. But the next day, on Friday, the civil aviation ministry issued a statement that "there was no Air India flight near the ill-fated Malaysian plane at the time of the incident".
Also h/t  No More MythsJuly 23, 2014 at 9:02 AM
Slightly off topic but relevant:

Obama orders Pentagon advisers to Ukraine to fend off Putin-backed rebels
U.S. to help Kiev bolster military as pressure mounts on Vladimir Putin
Tuesday, July 22, 2014

This doesn't bode well.
It definitely appears the US is upping the ante!

 Within the next few weeks, a group of Defense Department representatives who specialize in strategy and policy will head to Kiev to evaluate specific programs that the United States may want to help bolster, said Army Col. Steve Warren, a Pentagon spokesman.
 Their objective is to work with Ukrainians to “shape and establish an enduring program for future U.S. efforts to support the Ukrainian military through subject-matter expert teams and long-term advisers,” he said.
 H/T anonymous commenter- Seven Allies Establish NATO's Strategic Communications Center

Two Ukraine Sukhois downed? Ukrainian Mop up or Seperatist take down?

Yesterday, as noted in the previous post, the US admitted they had no evidence supporting all the claims they have been making these past days.

The US backs off it's false flag! "No direct link to Russia in downing of MH17

The news, of having no evidence, came out late in the day. Guaranteeing a reduced media audience reach.
That acknowledgement will be swept under the rug in light of what is breaking as this time.
So, here we are yet again. Almost a week to the day that the MH-17 fell from the sky and the subsequent officially spun, completely unsubstantiated, conspiracy theory narrative fell apart

We are getting this news.

 Two Ukrainian military fighter jets have been shot down in the east, according to the country's Defence Ministry.

The Sukhoi-25 fighters were shot down over an area called Savur Mogila.

Defence Ministry spokesman Oleksiy Dmitrashkovsky said the planes might have been carrying two crew members each.

Ukraine defence ministry spokesman says two fighters were shot down and each plane MIGHT have been carrying two crew members? Don’t they know?

I find this beyond odd, considering Russia identified A Sukhoi 25 as the plane flying near MH-17?
Are the Ukies getting rid of evidence? Planes and pilots involved in the MH-17 incident?
A question that has to be considered?


White house has NOT confirmed attacks?  Does Ukraine need White house confirmation to make their claims real?
"Ukraine’s defense ministry reported Wednesday that two Ukrainian fighter jets had been shot down in eastern Ukraine. The White House has not confirmed the attacks."
Pro-Russian rebels have shot down two Ukrainian fighter jets, a spokesman for Ukraine's military operations said today.
Ukraine says....

The spokesman said the two Sukhoi-25 fighters were downed around 1:30 p.m. local time near Savur Mogila in Eastern Ukraine.

Igor Strelkov, who is now in charge of the rebel ranks in the eastern city of Donetsk, said the separatists had brought down one plane and that the pilot had ejected. He gave no further details.
No details were known about the pilots, but Ukrainian defence officials said the planes may have been carrying up to two crew members each

Can anyone confirm if Strelkov or anyone affiliated with the antifascists actually made this statement?
This news is very short on details....

UPDATE: What can be learned from MH17’s ‘black boxes’?
The two data-collecting devices can paint a picture nearly impossible to piece together through other means.

 Nearly six days after the attack that brought down Malaysia Air Flight MH17, the plane’s nearly 20-year-old pair of “black boxes” have been delivered to Malaysian authorities. The handover was the result of an agreement negotiated between Ukrainian separatist leader Alexander Borodai and Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak. Now the work begins to free the boxes’ flight data recorders and cockpit voice recorders to reveal what they know.
Nearly 20 year old pair of black boxes? I read through this article and take away a perception of the main stream media prepping to down play the findings or even go so far as claim the boxes were tampered with by the anti-fascist groups .
Flight 17’s “loaf” modules, as the black boxes are sometimes described in the aviation business, are designed to withstand a tremendous 3,400 Gs worth of impact.
And as invulnerable as they may appear, such black boxes aren’t immune to tampering. If the units are correctly hooked up to a power source and allowed to run, the data on them can be rather easily overwritten in the same way that you might record over a VHS tape.
Seeds being sown.... I find it implausible with all the people on the ground around the crash site that anyone would be able to tamper with the boxes. MSM always planting seeds of deception